P2172: The engine computer has seen a sudden jump in airflow that the throttle position can't account for, which usually means air is leaking in somewhere
Throttle actuator control system: sudden high airflow detected
Severity: Inspect soon
KBB rates P2172 exceptionally serious and says it often causes a no-start or limp mode. If the engine still runs, drive only as far as needed to get it diagnosed.
It gets more serious if:
- Stop: Stop somewhere safe and have the car towed if the engine loses most of its power, stalls, won't respond to the pedal, or the transmission drops into neutral. That leaves you without drive in traffic.
P2172 in short
P2172 means the engine computer has detected a sudden rise in airflow that the throttle opening doesn't explain, usually from a vacuum leak. Chrysler calls it a high airflow or vacuum leak detected. A cracked hose or intake boot, a faulty MAP sensor, or abnormal system voltage are common causes. Expect limp mode; get it checked soon.
With an electronic throttle, the computer knows how much air should flow for a given throttle opening. When the manifold pressure or airflow reading shows more air than that, it concludes air is getting in elsewhere.
P2172 and P2173 are a pair: Ram's bulletin describes P2172 as a high airflow or vacuum leak detected with instantaneous accumulation, and P2173 as the slow-accumulation version. A sudden leak, like a hose popping off, tends to set P2172; a small, persistent leak sets P2173.
Both can come from a real leak or a sensor or software problem. Several Chrysler and Ram bulletins list these codes, and KBB notes P2172 can also be set as a side effect of other faults.
Most likely causes
These are general causes for this code across vehicles. None is specific to one make or model.
Cause 1: Vacuum leak: cracked hose, loose intake boot or leaking gasket
Common general cause- Why it ranks here
- KBB names vacuum leaks as the most common cause of both codes.
- What would change this
- Likelier with a hissing sound, a rough or high idle, or lean fuel-trim codes.
Cause 2: Faulty MAP sensor or its circuit
Possible — needs testing- Why it ranks here
- KBB lists a MAP malfunction for P2172, and Ram's bulletin lists MAP circuit codes with these codes.
- What would change this
- Likelier if P0107 or P0108 is stored too.
Cause 3: Abnormal system voltage
Possible — needs testing- Why it ranks here
- KBB lists abnormal system voltage for both codes.
- What would change this
- Likelier with a weak battery, charging warning or other electrical codes.
What to test first
Start at step 1. Each result tells you what it means and where to go next.
Step 1: Read all codes and check for bulletins covering your vehicle
IfA bulletin covers your vehicle
It meansHave the dealer follow it before replacing parts.
IfP0107 or P0108 is also stored
It meansCheck the MAP sensor circuit first.
IfLean or fuel-trim codes too
It meansLook for a vacuum leak.
Step 2: Inspect the intake boot, vacuum hoses and crankcase vent tubes, then smoke-test the intake
Warning:Work on a cool engine and keep clear of the fan and belts if the engine is running.
IfCracked or disconnected vacuum hose or boot
It meansRepair it.
Points to: Vacuum leak: cracked hose, loose intake boot or leaking gasket
IfNo leak found
It meansCheck the battery voltage and throttle.
Step 3: Check battery and charging voltage, then compare throttle position and MAP readings on the scan tool
Warning:Keep clear of the fan and belts with the engine running, and don't short test leads across battery terminals.
IfVoltage low or unstable
It meansRepair the charging or battery fault.
IfMAP reading implausible
It meansReplace or repair the MAP sensor circuit.
Symptoms
- Check engine light
- Poor throttle response or hesitation
- Incorrect or rough idle
- Hard start or no start
- Stalling, loss of power or the transmission dropping into neutral Gets more serious: stop and have it checked.
Compare with: Check engine light with loss of power, Rough idle with the check engine light on
How to fix
Step 1: Ask a dealer to check your VIN for bulletins; Ram has published bulletins that list P2172.
Step 2: Check that the air intake duct between the filter box and the throttle body is attached and not cracked.
Parts and cost context
- Vacuum hoses and intake leaks:A cracked hose or intake boot is usually a cheap part; finding it is the main labour. Labour varies; get a quote.
Labor varies by vehicle and shop; get a quote before you approve a repair.
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2019 · 1500
Supported by vehicle dataBulletin covering P2172 and P2173 with MAP circuit codes. Whether the bulletin is still current is not verified.
2019–2021 · 1500
Supported by vehicle dataTransmission may go to neutral with P2172/P2173 and fuel-trim codes. Whether the bulletin is still current is not verified.
S1808000282Status unverified
MIL with P0107/P0108/P2172/P2173
20191500 · issued · NHTSA 10175652
Covers MIL with P0107, P0108, P2172 (high airflow/vacuum leak detected, instantaneous accumulation) and/or P2173 (high airflow/vacuum leak detected, slow accumulation).
We couldn't confirm whether this bulletin is still current, so it doesn't count as confirmation.
S2118000013Status unverified
Transmission to neutral with P2172/P2173 and fuel-trim codes
2019–20211500 · issued · NHTSA 10218469
Transmission may go to neutral with P219A, P219B, P2173, P2172, P0172 and/or P0175 stored.
We couldn't confirm whether this bulletin is still current, so it doesn't count as confirmation.
Related codes
Sources and review
- P2172 Throttle Actuator Control System - Sudden High Air Flow Detected
- Ram S1808000282: P0107/P0108/P2172/P2173 (Ram 1500)
- Ram S2118000013: transmission shifts to neutral with P219A/P219B/P2172/P2173/P0172/P0175 (Ram 1500)
- Electronic Throttle Control (Throttle-By-Wire)
- P2173 Throttle Actuator Control System - High Air Flow Detected
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