P2017: Intake manifold runner position sensor signal too high (bank 1)
Intake manifold runner position sensor/switch circuit high, bank 1
Severity: Inspect soon
Kelley Blue Book calls this code generally serious and advises to stop driving, though that source is general rather than model-specific, so treat it cautiously and have it checked soon.
It gets more serious if:
- Stop: Stop driving if the engine runs very rough, stalls or loses power.
P2017 in short
P2017 means the intake manifold runner position sensor on bank 1 reads a signal that is too high. Likely causes are a faulty runner actuator or sensor, a wiring fault such as a spread terminal, or a failed manifold part. Do not replace the manifold first. Have it checked soon.
Some engines change intake runner length with a valve or actuator to improve power at different speeds. A sensor tells the computer where the runner is.
P2017 is set when the bank 1 position circuit reads high. Chrysler warns not to replace the whole intake manifold for a short runner valve fault, and Ram bulletin S2308000109 traces the codes to a spread terminal at the valve connector.
Ram also flashes the powertrain computer on some 2013 to 2015 trucks.
Most likely causes
Cause 1: Spread or loose terminal at the runner valve connector
Supported by vehicle data- Why it ranks here
- Ram bulletin S2308000109 identifies a spread terminal in circuit F342 as the cause on the 2022 to 2023 Ram 1500.
- What would change this
- Rises if the terminal tension is poor. Falls if the connector is tight.
Cause 2: Faulty short runner valve actuator or position sensor
Supported by vehicle data- Why it ranks here
- Chrysler bulletin 9001645 covers the short runner valve actuator for these codes.
- What would change this
- Rises if the valve does not move when commanded. Falls if it moves freely.
Cause 3: Powertrain computer software
Possible — needs testing- Why it ranks here
- Ram flash bulletins cover related codes on 2013 to 2015 trucks but the summaries do not state P2017.
- What would change this
- Rises if a dealer finds an update for your VIN. Falls if software is current.
What to test first
Start at step 1. Each result tells you what it means and where to go next.
Step 1: Read all codes. Note P2008, P2016 and P1004 stored with P2017.
IfP2008 or P2016 also stored
It meansA shared runner valve or connector fault.
IfP2017 alone
It meansCheck the connector.
Step 2: Have the runner valve connector and terminals inspected and the valve checked for movement.
Warning:Intake and valve work may need removing parts around hot engine components. Let a shop do it.
IfThe terminal is spread or loose
It meansConnector fault.
Points to: Spread or loose terminal at the runner valve connector
IfThe valve is stuck or the sensor is out of range
It meansActuator fault.
Points to: Faulty short runner valve actuator or position sensor
IfNothing found
It meansAsk about a software update.
Symptoms
- Check engine light
- Loss of power at some engine speeds
- Rough running Gets more serious: stop and have it checked.
How to fix
Step 1: Ask a dealer whether a bulletin or software update applies to your VIN before replacing the manifold.
Parts and cost context
- Engine control module (ECM / PCM):Software is checked before parts. Labour varies; get a quote.
Labor varies by vehicle and shop; get a quote before you approve a repair.
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RamYour car
2013–2015 · 1500
Possible — needs testingRam bulletin 18-103-16 flashes the powertrain computer on 2013 to 2015 Ram 1500. Not verified as current.
2022–2023 · 1500
Supported by vehicle dataRam S2308000109 traces P2008, P2016 and P2017 to a spread terminal on the 2022 to 2023 Ram 1500. Not verified as current.
18-103-16 REV. BStatus unverified
PCM flash: powertrain system improvements
2013–20151500 · issued · NHTSA 10121873
Covers selective erasing and reprogramming of the powertrain computer; the summary mentions a light on with related codes.
We couldn't confirm whether this bulletin is still current, so it doesn't count as confirmation.
S2308000109Status unverified
Check engine light with P2008, P2016, P2017, circuit F342
2022–20231500 · issued · NHTSA 10243188
Covers a spread terminal at the solenoid short runner valve connector on the 2022 to 2023 Ram 1500, circuit F342.
We couldn't confirm whether this bulletin is still current, so it doesn't count as confirmation.
DodgeYour car
2007–2010 · Avenger
Supported by vehicle dataChrysler 9001645 says not to replace the manifold for a short runner valve fault on 2007 to 2010 models. Not verified as current.
9001645Status unverified
Short runner valve actuator, do not replace the manifold
2007–2010avenger, journey, magnum · issued · NHTSA 10136933
Chrysler says do not replace the intake manifold for a short runner valve fault with P1004, P2008, P2016 or P2017.
We couldn't confirm whether this bulletin is still current, so it doesn't count as confirmation.
Related codes
No curated relationships for P2017 yet.
P2017 questions
Do I need a new intake manifold for P2017?
Not first. Chrysler says not to replace it for a short runner valve fault, and Ram traced one case to a spread connector terminal.
Sources and review
- P2017 OBD-II code
- Ram S2308000109: Check engine light with P2008, P2016, P2017, circuit F342
- Dodge 9001645: Short runner valve actuator, do not replace the manifold
- P2017 trouble code explanation
- Ram 18-103-16 REV. B: PCM flash: powertrain system improvements
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