P1698: On Dodge and Chrysler, the engine computer stopped receiving messages from the transmission computer on the vehicle data bus
Dodge/Chrysler no data bus message from the transmission control module (TCM)
Severity: Severity not verified — if the car runs badly, have it inspected
The sources define the code as lost communication with the transmission computer but none say how serious it is. Owners report it alongside a blank instrument cluster, so the cause could be a data bus fault rather than the transmission itself.
P1698 in short
On Dodge and Chrysler, P1698 means the engine computer is not getting data bus messages from the transmission computer. On older vans and trucks, owners report it with a blank instrument cluster and several warning lights. A bus wiring or module fault is likely; have it scanned for other communication codes.
Modern vehicles pass messages between computers on a data bus. The engine computer expects regular messages from the transmission computer. When they stop, it sets P1698.
The code does not say which side failed. A dealer scan on a 2002 Ram read it as "No CCD, J1850 message from TCM" and cleared it. On 1997 and 1999 Grand Caravans, owners report the code with a blank instrument cluster, ABS and airbag lights and dead door locks, which points to a communication fault shared by several modules.
Chrysler also lists P1698 among false codes in two 2003 bulletins, one for a no-start that clears when the key is cycled. Those bulletins list the code without defining it, so they are context only.
Pick your make
P1698 is a manufacturer-specific code: its meaning depends on who built the car.
Other makes: meaning not verified. Check with a scan tool that reads manufacturer definitions.
Most likely causes
These are general causes for this code across vehicles. None is specific to one make or model.
Cause 1: Data bus wiring, connector or cluster connection fault
Possible — needs testing- Why it ranks here
- Owners with 1997-1999 Grand Caravans report P1698 with a cluster that goes blank and other modules dropping out, and one attributes it to faulty connections in the cluster. This is owner opinion, so it is a lead to test rather than a proven cause.
- What would change this
- Rises if other modules also show lost communication or the cluster goes dark at the same time. Falls if only the transmission computer is silent.
Cause 2: Transmission control module not sending (power, ground or internal fault)
Possible — needs testing- Why it ranks here
- The definition itself is that the transmission computer sends no message. A scan on a 2002 Ram was cleared and road-tested, which suggests the fault was intermittent there.
- What would change this
- Rises if the transmission computer will not communicate with a scan tool. Falls if it answers normally.
What to test first
Start at step 1. Each result tells you what it means and where to go next.
Step 1: Scan every module for stored codes, not just the engine computer. Note whether the transmission computer, ABS, airbag and cluster respond.
IfSeveral modules do not respond or show lost-communication codes
It meansA shared data bus fault is likely.
Points to: Data bus wiring, connector or cluster connection fault
IfOnly the transmission computer does not respond
It meansCheck its power, ground and connector next.
Points to: Transmission control module not sending (power, ground or internal fault)
Symptoms
- Check engine light with P1698 and no other code
- Instrument cluster goes blank or gauges drop to zero for a few minutes
- ABS and airbag lights come on together with the cluster fault
How to fix
Parts and cost context
- Transmission control module (TCM):Replacing the module is a last step; prove the bus wiring and power supply first. Labour varies; get a quote.
Labor varies by vehicle and shop; get a quote before you approve a repair.
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DodgeYour car
1997–1999 · Grand Caravan
Supported by vehicle dataOwners of 1997 and 1999 Grand Caravans report P1698 with a blank instrument cluster and other warning lights.
1802603A (dodge)Status unverified
No start with false DTCs including P1698
2003grand-caravan · NHTSA 10003985
Same bulletin for the Dodge Caravan; the NHTSA record names Caravan, and the slug is the closest model listed.
We couldn't confirm whether this bulletin is still current, so it doesn't count as confirmation.
Related codes
No curated relationships for P1698 yet.
Sources and review
- P1698 trouble code definition by make
- NHTSA complaint ODI 10010135: 2002 Dodge Ram Club Cab, P1698
- NHTSA complaint ODI 10155928: 1997 Dodge Grand Caravan, P1698
- NHTSA complaint ODI 10607487: 1999 Dodge Grand Caravan, P1698
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