P0784: 4-5 shift malfunction: the transmission did not make the shift between gears 4 and 5 as the computer commanded

4-5 shift malfunction

Severity: Severity not verified — if the car runs badly, have it inspected

The sources define the code and list causes but do not say whether you can keep driving.

Source: how we rate severity

P0784 in short

P0784 means the transmission computer saw a problem with the 4-5 shift: the gear it got did not match the gear it asked for. TroubleCodes.net lists low or wrong fluid, blocked passages, wiring, shift solenoids and internal wear. A scan tool and a fluid check are the first steps.

The computer compares the gear it commands with the ratio it measures. If the 4-5 shift does not produce the expected ratio, it sets P0784. The Delaware DMV code list titles it 4-5 shift malfunction.

TroubleCodes.net lists fluid problems first, then blocked internal passages, wiring and connectors, shift solenoids and internal mechanical failure, with a control module fault rare.

Most likely causes

These are general causes for this code across vehicles. None is specific to one make or model.

  1. Cause 1: Low, degraded or wrong transmission fluid

    Common general cause
    Why it ranks here
    TroubleCodes.net lists low or degraded fluid and the wrong fluid type first.
    What would change this
    Rises if the fluid is low, dark, burnt-smelling or the wrong type. Falls if the fluid is correct and clean.
  2. Cause 2: Damaged wiring or corroded connectors

    Common general cause
    Why it ranks here
    TroubleCodes.net lists damaged wiring and corroded connectors.
    What would change this
    Rises if the harness is chafed or a connector is corroded. Falls if the circuits test good.
  3. Cause 3: Faulty shift solenoid

    Common general cause
    Why it ranks here
    TroubleCodes.net lists defective shift solenoids and has them tested with a scan tool.
    What would change this
    Rises if a solenoid fails a command or resistance test. Falls if all solenoids respond correctly.
  4. Cause 4: Clogged internal passages

    Common general cause
    Why it ranks here
    TroubleCodes.net lists clogged fluid passages and has the pan removed to look for debris.
    What would change this
    Rises if the pan holds debris or the fluid is dirty. Falls if the pan is clean.
  5. Cause 5: Internal transmission mechanical failure

    Common general cause
    Why it ranks here
    TroubleCodes.net lists mechanical failures and says metal in the pan points to one.
    What would change this
    Rises if metal is found in the pan or pressure is low. Falls if a fluid or solenoid fix restores normal shifts.
  6. Cause 6: Transmission or engine control module fault

    Possible — needs testing
    Why it ranks here
    TroubleCodes.net says a module defect is rare and to suspect it only after everything else is ruled out.
    What would change this
    Rises only after fluid, wiring, solenoids and pressure all check out.
    How to test the transmission control module (tcm)

What to test first

Start at step 1. Each result tells you what it means and where to go next.

  1. Step 1: Read all codes and freeze-frame data from the engine and transmission modules with a scan tool before clearing anything.

    Low riskTool: scan tool that reads the transmission module

    • IfOther shift, pressure or solenoid codes are stored

      It meansDiagnose them as one fault.

      Go to step 2

    • IfP0784 is alone

      It meansCheck the fluid first.

      Go to step 2

  2. Step 2: Check the fluid level, colour and smell by the maker's method.

    Use caution

    Warning:Many transmissions are sealed and the level depends on fluid temperature. Do not open a fill plug without the maker's procedure; fluid can be hot.

  3. Step 3: Inspect the transmission wiring for continuity, ground and resistance problems, and the connectors for corrosion.

    Low risk

  4. Step 4: Have a shop test shift solenoid function with a bidirectional scan tool, and look in the pan for debris.

    Best left to a shopTool: bidirectional scan tool

    Warning:Dropping the pan releases hot fluid and the vehicle must be safely supported. A sealed transmission may need the maker's procedure; leave it to a shop.

Symptoms

  • Check engine light
  • Harsh, erratic or unpredictable shifting
  • Slipping or a gear that will not engage Gets more serious: stop and have it checked.
  • Limp mode, transmission overheating or higher fuel use Gets more serious: stop and have it checked.

How to fix

  1. Step 1: Do not clear the code before the transmission module has been read.

  2. Step 2: Have the fluid level and condition checked by the maker's method before any part is replaced.

Parts and cost context

  • Transmission control module (TCM):A control module fault is rare per TroubleCodes.net; confirm fluid, wiring and solenoids first.

Labor varies by vehicle and shop; get a quote before you approve a repair.

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On your vehicle

Ford

  • 2007 · Expedition

    Supported by vehicle data

    Ford bulletin 0755 covers 6R75 transmission 2-3 and/or 4-5 shift flare, with the wrench lamp possibly on with P0782 and/or P0784. Whether it is still current is not verified.

  • 0755Status unverified

    Ford bulletin: 6R75 transmission 2-3 and/or 4-5 shift flare, wrench lamp with P0782 and/or P0784

    2007expedition · NHTSA 10021458

    Ford bulletin 0755 for the 2007 Expedition. The summary says the 6R75 transmission may show 2-3 and/or 4-5 shift flare, with the wrench lamp possibly on with P0782 and/or P0784. Only the NHTSA summary was read, not the full bulletin; the summary does not give the repair.

    We couldn't confirm whether this bulletin is still current, so it doesn't count as confirmation.

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P0784 questions

What does P0784 mean?

The computer found the 4-5 shift did not produce the gear ratio it commanded.

Can I drive with P0784?

We found no source that says. Slipping or harsh shifts can signal damage, so have it read and inspected promptly.

Sources and review

  1. On-Board Diagnostic Trouble Codes (generic code title list) — Delaware Division of Motor Vehicles
  2. P0784 trouble code page — TroubleCodes.net
  3. 0755: Ford bulletin: 6R75 transmission 2-3 and/or 4-5 shift flare, wrench lamp with P0782 and/or P0784 — Ford
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